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  Quote:
Originally posted by lightness盈 at 2009-8-29 20:18:
比要看比什么了?起步400米加速还是无限制直线加速还是赛道,同是未改装量产车的话隼也只能跑赢前段加速,后段极速和过弯都不是四轮超级跑车的对手,要是改装就没法说了,专门用来400米加速的摩托随便哪个都能灭了这些 ...

- -支持你的说法


2009-11-1 12:19
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好喜欢哦


2009-11-1 14:12
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平整的赛道级别直道可以,复杂点的路况就算了,抓地力相差太多了。

当然超跑对一般人来说只是个梦,但一般收入的老外买个大排摩托过过瘾还是不错的。一般的中国人就只能玩玩人家玩残了的二手货过过干瘾了。


2009-11-1 14:13
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倒骑战斧秒杀所有四轮


2009-11-1 14:18
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Originally posted by qq12612008 at 2009-8-29 19:41:
林宝坚尼、GTR、法拉利

它应该可以,传说它可以600码以上


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Y2K秒杀一切路上跑的!!!!


2009-11-1 14:42
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懂了~  呵呵~


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  Quote:
Originally posted by 柏青哥 at 2009-8-30 02:23:
比 .....

0~100 km/h 加速?
100~200km/h 再加速?
0~200 km/h 加速?
1 公里尾速?
極速?
山道?
賽道?
油耗?
其他?

要看 LZ 是希望他們比啥麼,不然是不會有數據的!

说得好


2009-11-1 17:05
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500whp的汽车跟公升级摩托车比加速就是笑话

[ Last edited by passersby on 2009-11-1 at 18:40 ]


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http://club.pchome.net/topic_1_15_3817757.html





08年在美国lemoore空军基地的测试成绩
比0-180英里(290公里)的加速谁最快,0-100,0-160,0-400米都是顺带测试。结果川崎ZX10R惊爆全场,以0-290公里仅仅17秒21的恐怖成绩拔得头筹!意大利的MV AGUSTA 1078R紧跟在后面取得第二!撇开价格贵得离谱的MV AGUSTA 1078R;10R的这个成绩,比08年新隼少用了1秒钟!!比他大哥六眼魔神少用两秒半!
0-100的加速明显是新隼最快,2秒58;六眼其次,2秒62,然后是限量版的1098R,铃木K8。。。。。
08款10R的后段加速十分恐怖,从时速160加速到290只用了11秒99!比第二名意大利AGUSTA 1078R少用0.8秒,比08CBR1000RR少用3秒7! 10秒钟就从静止加速到241公里!

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看清楚上面的贴子,0-290km/h加速(摩托车最速有君子协定,原厂达不到186mph(300km/h最速))最差劲的是本田CBR1000RR,也只要21秒。
汽车里面就拿650马力法拉利enzo数据来说(Enzo中后段提速比任何一款兰博基尼都要快)
有记录的最快成绩是
0-300km/h 26秒钟
有比头不?
摩托车从静止起步到达极速这个过程中,连650马力enzo都吃灰!


2009-11-1 18:54
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  Quote:
Originally posted by J.C.LEE at 2009-8-30 06:06:
呵呵,这是不同的东西来做比较,不能给与肯定答复

不过在“优酷”上有一个视频:

战机,跑车,摩托,这3者的一个较量!

结局是:第一个冲出去,而且在前几百米的距离中处在最前面的是摩托,其次是战斗机 ...

摩托车只在前几百米领先?
这个视频里面1分23起步,保时捷1分48跟摩托车打平手,起步25秒就赶上,明显R1是放水的,没有用全力,便宜了保时捷。要么就是保时捷改到了700马力以上。美国road and track杂志2005年在lemoore空军基地做过实验,在1600米(或起步27秒之内)干掉公升级摩托车的只有750马力萨林s7双涡轮增压,800马力冠军方程式,1000马力改装蝰蛇!兰博基尼,法拉利都吃灰


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不要再说摩托车只能在起步几秒领先这些市售超跑。这种说法很搞笑,
高手驾驶一部上世纪80年代的老川崎GPZ900原厂车就可以在10秒5x内开完400米;
而将近20年后,650马力的enzo开完同样距离要比他慢。


2009-11-1 19:10
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如果是改装对改装,前提是可以领牌照上路。美国英国的那些一英里直线加速赛可以参考,一英里=1609米。比从静止加速开完一英里测尾速,要击败turbo改装的400+马力隼,汽车要改装到1500+马力才行


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去谷歌搜maxton ,ECTA,TEXAS STANDING MILE. 搜 260mph YANCY busa; Scott busa maxton; 254mph busa naked record。。。激光测速同一个地点,1500+马力的暴改supra,2000马力蝰蛇都做不到400,但是500马力改装摩托车(完全公路合法,使用街车轮胎)可以在起步1609米内加速到400以上,0-400公里提速25秒以内,是1001马力威龙的一半时间都不到。


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要屠杀隼要什么级别才行
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Garths-Supra-vs-on-Races_886.htm#commentTop
视频上的这次决斗是supra改到900后轮马力时发生的
1034马力supra的介绍


“Toyota Supra Turbo 1034 Horsepower to the wheels @36psi  后轮1034马力,也就是说发动机能发出1200匹左右的马力!

While we’re always a sucker for high-horsepower Supras, we were drawn to Sin City after hearing of the Hayabusa-killing Supra of Garth Weaver. We had to hunt down for ourselves the legendary ’94 Supra that, at least on film, blew away a fixed-up Hayabusa motorcycle piloted by a good racer.


Before we get to that race of lore, how Garth hunted down his own Supra is also interesting. Garth has previously owned several different vehicles, from a Porsche 911 and 928, to a blown and nitrous-fed Chevy Pro-Street Truck, a Lingenfelter 420 and C6 Corvettes. His first experience with a MKIV was in 1998. He was at the races with his unbeaten Lingenfelter. A white MKIV drives up and the owner asks if he wants to run for $500. Garth and a friend talk it over and say “Sure, it’s just a six cylinder, we’ll enjoy taking his money.” Well, that didn’t happen. He lost to the Supra and was out five bills.


Garth was amazed, but not convinced. He researched these six-cylinder turbo cars and found they not only could make a lot of power for such a small package but the stock bottom end was amazingly strong. He did what any sane man would do and sold his Lingenfelter Corvette and started the search for a clean six-speed MKIV. He checked out the Net, at Autotrader and other Web sites.


In 2002, he found a 59,000-mile, white 1994 six-speed in Arizona. Ryan Woon was the owner’s name and he gave Garth the fastest ride he’d ever had. After that convincing ride, Garth became the proud owner of a Supra with a T-66 with the normal APU upgrades that made 696 whp. At that stage, the car had run a best e.t. of 10.56 at 134 mph. Garth soon felt it was time to step it up to the next level and enlisted the skills of Virtual Works Racing (VWR) in Las Vegas, Nev. VWR, as our readers know from last month’s Lexus, is a proven high-performance shop.


Garth and Dana Westover, the shop owner, decided to go with a built short block and head. The boring and machining was done by friend and long-time VWR associate, Adam Dahl, of Allied Machine, also in Las Vegas. Adam specializes in high-horsepower boosted engines. The overall assembly is a partnership between Dana and Adam. They started with a .020-over fresh block, Arias pistons, Crower H-beam rods, Carr bolts, VWR ported-and-polished head with Ferrea 1mm oversize valves with titanium retainers and locks, Crower valve springs and HKS 272 cams. The head porting and polishing was done by Ben Waage of VWR.


VWR fabricated the turbo kit as well as the custom 4-inch intake piping and 5-inch custom fresh air intake with 10-inch air filter. A VWR intake manifold, 90mm throttle body, custom VWR stainless-steel 4-inch downpipe and exhaust were installed. Garth chose, along with the VWR intake, a 90mm Accufab throttle body to feed the 2JZ head. “I had done extensive research on the manifold and made the decision to purchase it. The manifold works. Period.”


The VWR "End All" fuel system consists of three Walbro pumps, Aeromotive fuel filters with braided line, Weldon fuel pressure regulator and 160 lb/hr. injectors. The size of the injectors was determined by the power Garth wanted to achieve. As Garth adds, “They are actually quite streetable with the right combination and tune.”


Garth’s goals were for around 900-plus whp, but to keep the car streetable with A/C and smooth idle. As for a turbo setup, Dana suggested the Garrett GT42 (76mm compressor wheel) because he was using the same turbo on his race car. On Dana's car, this setup had made more power than the GT-76S. Garth needed the power for his main objective: hunting Hayabusas, GXSRs and other big-bore bikes.Says Garth, “I love highway rolls! I knew at the beginning of my build that this would shape my goals for the car. I wanted bulk power to beat the bikes I had been beaten by with my T-72 setup.”他需要这样的马力去实现他主要的目标,捕捉隼和其他一些大缸径摩托车。他说,“我喜欢高速公路上的提速战斗!要实现我的目标!我要大把的马力去击败那些曾经击败过我的摩托车!”

For the drivetrain, Garth recently upgraded the clutch to an RPS carbon-carbon setup with a chrome-moly flywheel. Garth swears it’s “great for hardcore drag racing and roll-ons. I can't believe how streetable this clutch is.”


The night Garth received the phone call that the car was ready to fire up, he could hardly get to the shop fast enough. The car started and ran with no problems. It sounded awesome. Garth told us “the power band is very linear. It starts building boost around 4500 rpm and continues ’till redline, around 8600 rpm. I like to get the car around 6200 rpm for a nasty launch or roll-on and nail it.”


Because the engine modifications are attention-grabbing, we forgot to mention that Garth’s first upgrade was actually the wheels and tires. He had an RMM carbon-fiber wing already and thought a black-centered wheel would look good. He decided to go with the K-58s from Kinesis Wheels. The wheels are 9x18 fronts with 245/40/18 G-force KDs and 10.5x18 rears with 295/35/18 drag radials.


How did it do? Garth had recently re-ran a modified Hayabusa (around 180 whp) with a pro rider from a first gear roll. The bike had beaten Garth before so Garth was eager to even the score.这种设定起不起效果?Garth最近和一部改装到约180马力,由专业骑手驾御的隼比了一场,用一档从20英里时速起比提速。以前Garth曾被这部车击败,现在他极力要扳回比分!


“I arrived at the normal location and agreed to do a 20 mph roll with the ‘Busa. We were paired up even, I was at 6400 rpm with no brake boost and we left, a little tire spin, but not bad. I got out on him and never looked back. I ended up in 6th at around 200 mph about 10-plus car lengths in front. Awesome.” The previous race with the bike Garth was running the stock motor with 264 cams and a GCC VPC setup on a GT-72 DBB making 706 whp. Garth says, “The bike would get out on me about 5 car lengths on the jump and I could never catch it after that. The difference between 700 whp and 1,000 whp is simply amazing.I found out that you need more than 800 whp to beat a Hayabusa in a roll on, especially a modded bike with a good rider. This car eats the stock ‘Busa's!!! Who would ever thought 3500-pound cars would be beating bikes?” Mmmmmm, ‘Busa’s for a late-night snack.我们并肩,然后开始。我在6400转,增压不断作用,后胎有一点打滑,不过还好。我超过了他(前面提到的180尾轮马力的隼),再也没有回头去看。挂到了6档大概时速200英里(322公里/时)的样子我已经领先他10个多车身了!这真是太棒了!上一次输的时候Garth用的是GCC VPC的GT-72 DBB设定,用了264°凸轮轴,发出706尾轮马力(约800马力)“这车(隼)从开始就领先我5个车身,然后我怎么也没法追上,700马力和1000马力的区别真是太神奇了!我发现从行使后再加速比赛想击败隼之类的车,特别是有好的骑手驾驶的情况下,你需要至少800尾轮马力(大约900马力)哇!我的车击败了原装隼!!!谁能想到一部3500磅重的跑车能够击败摩托车!?哈哈!这些隼们,就当我的小宵夜吧!”)
ps:(老外们把摩托车击败跑车当成天经地义,再看看我们!以前看了个帖子说511马力跑车什么的,有些回帖简直搞笑,不是汽车加速击败不了摩托,而是你要拿什么级别去比,区区511匹,若是指的曲轴马力,实际轮上输出也就450匹不到,这种级别的还是回家洗洗睡吧)










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今年10月份德国杂志的测试成绩,几乎全是超跑和改装车,成绩自己看吧,跟摩托车比比看

The full results were published in the October issue of the German magazine, Sport Auto.  Here they are:


Porsche 997 Turbo mk2
Cadillac CTS-V
AM V12 Vantage
Ruf Rt 12 S
Koenigsegg CCX-R
Gumpert Apollo
Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV
Porsche 997 GT3 mk2
Wiesmann GT MF5
Cargaphic 997 Turbo GT RSC
TechArt GTstreet RS
MTM Audi RS6 Avant
Geiger-Ford GT
Geiger-Corvette Z06

0-100 km/h:
3.1 s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
3.2 s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
3.9 s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
3.9 s - Koenisgegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
3.9 s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
4.0 s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
4.5 s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
4.7 s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

0-200 km/h:貌似最快的一辆都不如当今主流1000cc快,甚至600cc级别也比以下这些超跑更快一点9.5 s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
9.8 s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
10.3s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
10.8s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
11.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
12.8s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
14.0s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
14.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

0-300 km/h:(即便到了高速区四个轮子也不见得如何,06年美国机车杂志测试川崎ZX14,vbox成绩显示0-300少于21秒,比这里任何一辆都快)
24.7s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
26.7s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
29.7s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg(670马力最强兰博基尼不过如此)40.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
41.9s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
50.3s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
53.7s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
69.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg(1分多钟才加速到300,还是回家洗洗睡吧,这样龟爬,破三百又如何?)

Tuners
0-100 km/h:


3,0 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
3,6 s - Geiger-Ford GT
3,6 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
3.6 s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
3,7 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
4,3 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06


0-200 km/h:


9,1 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
9,5 s - Geiger-Ford GT
10,0 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
10.6s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
11,0 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
12,0 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06


0-300 km/h:


22,8 s - Geiger-Ford GT
23,8 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
26,4 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
27.3s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
35,5 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
43,2 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06

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2009-11-1 19:53
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雪豹兵哥
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摩托车前期加速好。


2009-11-1 20:00
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  Quote:
Originally posted by 雪豹兵哥 at 2009-11-1 20:00:
摩托车前期加速好。

前期?如果汽车是五六百马力,公升级基本可以把他们从头放到尾,彻底杀死。当然前提二者都是是高手驾驶


2009-11-1 20:05
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加速是摩托快的


2009-11-1 20:16
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